Podcast!
A conversation with Cade Metz.
One way to keep up with what’s going on in Silicon Valley is to read the work done by Cade Metz, technology correspondent for The New York Times and author of ‘Genius Makers: The Mavericks Who Brought AI to Google, Facebook, and the World’. If you have not read the book, I encourage you to do so. The opening chapter was published in Wired magazine, and is free to read if you click on this link. It tells the story of “the secret auction that set off the race for AI supremacy”. It’s riveting.
Joe Klein and I interviewed Cade in May of last year and given everything that has happened since, we thought it would be a good idea to re-connect with Cade and get caught up. So we did. Hopefully, once you’ve listened, you’ll feel caught up as well.
‘Night Owls’ podcast with Cade Metz, 12 November 2025.